MLS
steven9892ataol
asked:
"How long do you think it will take the MLS to be at the same level of the premier leagues (Spain, England, etc). Eventually the US will produce (already have a few) top rated players that can excel in the premireship. I would assume that since they are from this country they would make there money in Europe and come back to the US. Eventually they will come back in their prime to contribute. I think this will attract more overseas players. MLS is not far off from being considered a top level league. I do not think anyone can dispute the fact that they are close to it now. Premiership teams would not travel to this country during there preseason to play subpar opponents. They can get that from there own sub leagues. MLS is on the rise and I love it. 10 years ago I was embarrased by the level of play. Now I tune it all the time.I appreciate all the view points. As both leagues differ dramatically they both offer different styles. I truly believe that the premiership is a top heavy league; Spain, Italy, and england. Take Dallas, DC or New England and they would finish bottom of the pack, not relegated. The top teams are actually destroying the competition. Soon these leagues will have to adopt a salary cap, the money does not grow on trees. With that being said, the leagues will eventually become even. Whether that is 10 or 20 years. Thank you all for your responses. But we will never know until there is a world wide tournament. World cup does not count because a premier league team is always going to be better."
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David D replied:
"MLS will unfortunately not ever be even with the Premier Leagues. I would love for that to happen, as a soccer fan. However, Americans do not care. They are a bandwagon country, and only pay attention when they are playing in the World Cup, or another big tournament, and as soon as they lose, they turn off their sets."
eric cartman replied:
"1 more big signing like beckham"
Anto.G replied:
"It will never happen. The MLS is the equivalent of the English second tier, the Championship, only at the bottom end of the Championship. They have internationals and have some good players sure. But It's not nationally popular and some of the defending is almost schoolboy level. Sorry, but your being far to optimistic."
rockabilly philip paul replied:
"The european leagues have such a history that you are always going to have American players looking to europe. Take someone like Charlie Davies, I'm sure he could have signed with the MLS had he chose to. He was the number #1 player in the country at the university level, but he chose to sign with Hammarby IF. Recent Swedish champions yes but not a major power house. The lore of europe is strong. It's kinda like the old saying " join the army and see the world ". A player can grow both as an athelete and as a person by comming over to europe. And seriously, if you hadto chose between Columbus Ohio and Stockholm Sweden, the Venice of the North, where would you want to play ?In terms of the level of play in the MLS. There is a core group of people on this forum who are NEVER gonna give the MLS any credit, and perhaps getting to the level of the EPL is going to be a long time comming. However the MLS is far from being "crap". A few examples, Peter Philipakos was a star player for Olympicos. Played with them in the Champion League. Was selected to both the US National team and the Greek National team ( his parents are of greek origin ). This is the same Greek team that went on to win the European cup. Last year he tried out for the RedBulls and did not make the cut. Recently the LA Galaxy held an open try out. I think something like 1000 players were looked at. Only two were called back for a second look. One guy had played in the English Championship league and the other had played in Portugal's Liga. Neither made the team. Joe Zewe a star striker in Denmark didn't make the Chicago Fire roster this spring either.Realistically I think the MLS is about at the level of the Dutch League or the English Championship League right now and getting better."
Frederick S replied:
"Right now, I believe MLS is on par with the English Championship (one tier below the EPL). The best MLS clubs like DC United or the New England Revolution would be a notch below the top Scottish Premier League clubs like Celtic and Rangers. They would regularly not make the group stage of the Champions League, getting eliminated in the 2nd or 3rd qualifying round...Is MLS improving? Absolutely... I think in 10-15 years, MLS could be on par with the German Bundesliga and French Ligue One. But I don't think it will be on par with EPL, La Liga or Serie A. These three leagues have so much history, tradition, and huge TV contracts to buy the best players. The Bundesliga and Ligue One have had financial problems in the last few years. I heard most Ligue One clubs lose money each year, and really depend on getting money from transfers. I kind of believe you will see most of the clubs in these two leagues start to cut costs to be financially viable.MLS needs to keep the momentum going. It has a whole bunch of futbol fans in the USA who love European and Mexican leagues but can't stand watching MLS... If it can break into this niche, I believe the casual viewers will also increase. Right now, European clubs are increasing their exposure in the USA which can hurt MLS if they don't continue to improve.This is the best time for MLS to push forward. With all the other sports dealing with major scandals (steroids, corrupt referees, dogfighting), MLS can direct more attention to itself.I also don't think we should judge how "good" MLS is compared to other leagues by who's playing in the league. There are some excellent players in MLS who played in the English Championship but never in EPL. Others who can't make it in Europe but do well in MLS. Then there are players who are famous in Europe but can't make the starting eleven in MLS. It's a matter of fitting in the system with a MLS club. MLS is an athletic and physical league, but not very organized or technically skilled. So a player who's really slow and hates contact but technically gifted might not do very well in MLS, especially if the club doesn't hide his weaknesses. But maybe he's star in La Liga or South America."
hammer replied:
"Probably when the pilgrims come back to England and start all over again. Seriously though, America just doesn't have the passion for the game and any really good American players will go to Europe because that's where the money is. There is no wage cap. Why do you think American business men are buying English football teams and not MLS teams? They know where they can make money, thats why."
us_fulham_fan replied:
"It will only happen when major players turn down EPL, La Liga, Bundesliga, Serie A for equal or more money from an MLS team. It's players salaries that will be the driving factor. Maybe in 20 years it might be there, maybe."
Viva Man Utd replied:
"sh!t when they sign players like Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Luca Toni, Fernando Torres, Wayne Ronney, Giovanni Dos Santos, and more great players. but it might take about 15 or 20 years cause im from the states and trust me, not much people like soccer only the latinos."
jasonbourne
asked:
"My favorite sport in the world is soccer/football, i love watching, playing, breathing the sport. I have a true passion for the game, and to me its insulting to see played on a stupid american football field. So does anyone know when all teams in MLS will have a real soccer stadium?"
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smashguy912 replied:
"Well it's getting there. If you go to Wikipedia and find out what stadium each team plays on, then you will see that there will be more teams playing in soccer-specific stadiums than US football fields."
La Galaxy 10 - Oak Raiders 0 ha! replied:
"well the official estimated date is 2019"
demon_aus replied:
"I wouldnt be so keen to see them move away from those fields.Yes they may be 'borrowing' the fields BUT it provides the teams with professional venues and a fraction of the cost of building a purpose built one.Economics forces clubs to share, and I do not thing thats a bad thing, why spends hundreds of millions of a venue that is used 20 times a year, or even 50 times a year if two or more sports can shre if effectivly and it be used 100 times a year.The teams get (hopefully) the best possible surface, the fans get a great stadium, tv becomes more involved becasue the infrastructure is in place already and we dont see the money drained from clubs in interest on loans for stadiums.What I do hope is as we see soccer become more popular the teams getting better deals for use of the stadiums, better access to them and less of the other sports marks being left on the fields when our games are being played."
Juan G replied:
"well they need to not be cheap and built a fucking stadium"
oransiei replied:
"You do understand that the dimensions of the two fields are the same? I'm almost a hundred percent sure they are, but even if not they are insanely close. Correct me if I am wrong but a soccer field is 110-120 yards by 30-40 yards wide.By the way the Revolution is getting a stadium built for them by the regional owner."
Chicago Fire Football Fan replied:
"First let me state that I am American born and so are my parents and grandparents. This country is becoming so ethnically diverse, the sport is gaining traction, and the MLS league understands that we must grow the sport organically to make it a legitimized venue. This is why the EPL looks (and is) so successful on TV. The stadiums are not these gigantic Soldier Field / Ohio State stadiums, therefore they look and feel packed. This creates excitement and passion that the sport naturally generates. Sports highlights are very weak in this country when it comes to football (when they show it on a hand ball field with all the yard lines marked on the pitch). Football specific stadiums that the MLS is now pursuing will soon be the norm. I agree that it is annoying to see real football played on a hand ball (NFL) pitch. We are not a Mexico where football rules as it is the only huge sport and a great source of national pride. (That is why I love beating them at their own game). Come to Toyota Park anytime and join us in Section 118, cheering on the Fire, and see football at world class level. Go Blanco & McBride! The NFL is great league and will always be a part of the American experience. It just needs to return the name of our sport back to its rightful owner. By the way, do we realize how many world class athletes we loose to the NFL? All the resources, all the money, and only 70 million consistent fans, compared to billions in real football. What about the Olympics? If we put half of our NFL’s best in various events in the Summer Olympics in China, what would the medal count be then? Would China still be claiming they won? How about the other half of the NFL focuses on real football. They could make millions more yearly on a global scale, and be a household name in Istanbul and L.A. We would be exporting world class strikers all over the world to different leagues for colossal salaries like Brazil does now. Do we really need to focus so much of our athletic talent on a sport that no one really gets into everywhere else on this planet, except the 48 states of the mainland?"
Frederick S replied:
"I think all MLS clubs have a soccer-specific stadium or planning to build one, though they are in various planning stages. I think the only club that has zero plans is the new Seattle Sounders club which believe closing the upper sections of Qwest Field (home of the NFL Seahawks) will be enough. We'll see...Anyway, it is the number one priority of MLS to build soccer specific stadiums. The league has not been shy about this objective. It believes smaller, more intimate stadiums will enhance the value of each club by drawing more interest (and higher ticket prices) and controlling stadium operations (instead of paying a lease and being second-class citizens to NFL teams).Unfortunately, the recession has hampered stadium plans. Here in the Bay Area, the Earthquakes will have a much tougher time funding the stadium so it's going to take longer than expected. Fortunately, Buck Shaw Stadium is a good soccer-specific facility (compared to Spartan Stadium where the Quakes used to play and share with San Jose State's football team) though it only holds 10,000 people. But how long can owner Lew Wolff wait for a new stadium while the club loses money???"
Realny08
asked:
"My partner is a listed NY real-estate agent who is not practicing for the past 10 years. We are working on some properties in NY and so looking for sharing MLS listings with others for a fee. My question is it possible? And is it legal to do this?"
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alterfemego replied:
"You should check with your local real estate board."
Mary B replied:
"No, the MLS rules does not allow a property to be listed by more than one Realtor on the MLS. Period. You can't "share" a listing.The local Board of Realtors in conjunction with the National Realtors Association, own, run and control all aspects of the MLS...it belongs to them and they have a contract that you have to sign before you are accepted for membership.You also cannot charge an additional fee for listing a property..that violates the MLS terms as well.I HIGHLY suggest you contact the Board of Realtors and get a full list of their MLS rules."
Eazy
asked:
"I personally think that this was an OK buy for MLS, but I still think they are not doing it right. It depends, if MLS is overpaying for him, it's a bad buy, if it was a reasonable price, then it's an OK move. I think MLS needs to bring in Quality players from South America who are young, not players who are about to retire. But anyways, what do you guys think?"
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kido "We won the bet" replied:
"I think its ok to attract more people but also yea bring in more talent from south america not just from africa.good question and response"
davie darko replied:
"I think it's a good signing.he is still an injury risk.hopefully he plays well and stays healthy.he's still only 31.so I would say he has about 3 good years to play.I've seen him play before and he is much more dynamic than beckham.he takes people off the dribble more and he has excellent pace.also has accurate passing.I agree with you about the MLS scouting South America.I especially like the MLS signings of javi morales last season and andre rocha.that dejair dude in Chivas LA looks pretty good too.the MLS definitely has earned dividends from bringing in talented South Americans.conde also was a good signing."
sweetmommy replied:
"I think he will be great for Seattle. He's not really that old guys!"
OSweet (Didn't bet, but) replied:
"From marketing standpoint, brilliant, because he's so photogenic. He'll look great on Sounders programs and media guides. Will convert more of the Seattle area's marginal/potential soccer fans.And now, if Beckham stays, MLS will have the 2 most centerfold-worthy footballers in the world. Stadiums will be filled with teenage girls. Shrieking.Seriously, though, the mainstream U.S. sports media will relate to Freddie better than say, RSL's Javier Morales. Arsenal is a team they've heard of. They'll be proud of themselves saying, "The ex-Arsenal player ...""
Houston Dynamo replied:
"I think that's great! They need more talents like him in the MLS!"
scjazzguitar replied:
"He's a great player, not quite as fast as he used to be but holds on to the ball very well, great dribbler and can cross the ball good. i will definitely want to go see him if he signs with the league. im an arsenal fan and can't wait to see him"
Caco replied:
"Personally, I find this exciting, considering im an Arsenal fan. When they play against DC, I will defiantly be attending. Just rooting for DC UTD"
Gustavo CL replied:
"MLS has no capacity of atracting young quality players from South American. The players from South America you call "quality players" are actually the rest that neither the European market or the top South American teams wanted. The look good playing at MLS, though."
f0revershort
asked:
"I'm doing research for someone who is trying to figure out why it makes sense to list a home in the MLS for a different city or county when the home is not in that location. For example, a home in San Francisco would be listed in the Oakland MLS. If the person was looking for a home in SF, wouldn't they just go to the SF MLS? If there was a home listed in the Oakland MLS I would expect that home to be located in the city of Oakland. Can someone explain this to me?"
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Jim H replied:
"This appears to be a distoration of the truth and would be a violation of the code of ethics and and lack of disclousre.When inputting a listing, it will have the name of the city and zip code and thats where the property should be listed."
satarnag replied:
"Because some listing brokers only pay commission to members of their MLS board only. For that reason, it is wise to list the home in nearby MLS boards. For example, maybe an agent in Oakland has a client that is relocating to San Francisco. That agent will show the San Francisco house that is listed in the Oakland so that he/she can get the commission.Regards"
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